Often players keeps playing on in endings with a rook down thinking for years in classical. It's very boring. Also I probably resign if I lose a Queen without compensation because I think playing on is very boring and mostly a waste of time. However that's my opinion, they of course have the right to play on.
People who say "Learn to resign" Are just trying to make you have hurt feelings in chess. They are just bullies in the internet.
I don't think that the typical case is about bullying. Many people, including me, feel annoyed by opponents who refuse to resign in lost positions.
It seems to be an impatience born of the nature of modern culture, specifically internet culture and our overstimulated information age, as I stated on the first page.
It seems to be an impatience born of the nature of modern culture, specifically internet culture and our overstimulated information age, as I stated on the first page.
#35 good point
It's a matter of ettiquette, however usually people who whine about it are just trolls and you should ignore them and play on even longer.
However, for reference, these are the conditions that you should resign:
1. You are playing against an equal or superior player and you've just lost your queen to a trap within the first 10 moves without any compensation. You are going to lose this game 99% of the time and all you'll learn from continuing on is how to hate chess.
2. You are playing against an equal or superior player and you've just transitioned into an endgame where they are a rook up and your king is away from their advancing pawns. This is hopeless to even stalemate on a blunder.
3. You are playing virtually anyone rated higher than 1000 and you have blundered several times and lost so much material that they have 2 or 3 more pieces than you and lots of pawns and all you can do is defend because their king is safe and they are on the attack. This is quite honestly not going to go well.
Reasons you should play on:
1. You are a superior player and you see there are still a few tactics on the board left to generate some counterplay that might force a blunder and at least get a draw or stalemate out of the game if it goes on long enough. If you try all your tactics and make no progress as you just keep getting pushed through the grinder, though, it's probably time to resign.
2. You are in a completely lost endgame but your king is ahead of the opponent's pawns and you think you might get a lucky stalemate.
3. You're the superior player but you managed to blunder your queen. However, you have some compensation for it, like a minor piece and a pawn and you have a lot of piece activity and initiative still.
Hope this helps. Cheers!
However, for reference, these are the conditions that you should resign:
1. You are playing against an equal or superior player and you've just lost your queen to a trap within the first 10 moves without any compensation. You are going to lose this game 99% of the time and all you'll learn from continuing on is how to hate chess.
2. You are playing against an equal or superior player and you've just transitioned into an endgame where they are a rook up and your king is away from their advancing pawns. This is hopeless to even stalemate on a blunder.
3. You are playing virtually anyone rated higher than 1000 and you have blundered several times and lost so much material that they have 2 or 3 more pieces than you and lots of pawns and all you can do is defend because their king is safe and they are on the attack. This is quite honestly not going to go well.
Reasons you should play on:
1. You are a superior player and you see there are still a few tactics on the board left to generate some counterplay that might force a blunder and at least get a draw or stalemate out of the game if it goes on long enough. If you try all your tactics and make no progress as you just keep getting pushed through the grinder, though, it's probably time to resign.
2. You are in a completely lost endgame but your king is ahead of the opponent's pawns and you think you might get a lucky stalemate.
3. You're the superior player but you managed to blunder your queen. However, you have some compensation for it, like a minor piece and a pawn and you have a lot of piece activity and initiative still.
Hope this helps. Cheers!
#37 beautifully put
Chess is not a game, but a continuing process whereby you pass through stages of understanding. You begin by learning how to checkmate someone with Q+K v K and progress from there. If you know how to do this, what use is the rest of the game to you? Only if you have an emotional attachment to the result of your chess games will you find any value in not resigning.
When I'm on my deathbed I don't want to think of the hours of my life I spent waiting to be checkmated by an opponent. Not even if I managed a stalemate once.
When I'm on my deathbed I don't want to think of the hours of my life I spent waiting to be checkmated by an opponent. Not even if I managed a stalemate once.
^^^ So deep. So correct.
#39: Well said.
Also, my list in #37 is not exhaustive. They were just some examples. There are obviously others. For instance if I'm playing someone with a lower rating, and I have some clock advantage, and I think they don't know how to solve the mate, I might continue because I'm a jerk. ;)
Also, my list in #37 is not exhaustive. They were just some examples. There are obviously others. For instance if I'm playing someone with a lower rating, and I have some clock advantage, and I think they don't know how to solve the mate, I might continue because I'm a jerk. ;)
Here GM Boris Gelfand refused to resign against GM Peter Svidler and managed to draw with R against Q.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1210725
Regardless of players strength, do not always resign lost positions.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1210725
Regardless of players strength, do not always resign lost positions.
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