Reasons to be Cheerful

I never said they were the same, just that they come from the same place, and that a moral evaluation of either morally is ultimately arbitrary. Fantasy doesn't remain fantasy because a person wants it to, it remains fantasy because that person lacks the ability or frame of mind to convert it into action. Whether that frame of mind is a result of morality, fear, or something else...that's what makes a moral arbitration possible -- you can't make an arbitration solely from a persons inaction.

(Also, hat wasn't a quote, it just sounded nice in Esperanto, and I started learning Esperanto yesterday so I'm trying to apply it. I'll take that as a compliment. :D)

...wowza, I am bad at writing coherently when I rant.

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(Also, that wasn't a quote, it just sounded nice in Esperanto, and I started learning Esperanto yesterday so I'm trying to apply it. I'll take that as a compliment. :D)"

Then it was a quote by you. ;)

I do understand where you're coming from, in part. I take it that you're part of the camp that sees action as what defines us. "Man has no nature, only a history". We are also on the same page when we distinguish imagination from action.

And there is little doubt that moral stands are arbitrary, or as you say, "no manner is correct".

#3 Dio - that's another thing, they didn't bother taking the carcass with them, just the head.